1 00:00:01,392 --> 00:00:03,394 [EPIC MUSIC] 2 00:00:06,832 --> 00:00:09,226 NARRATOR: When the curtain lowered onThe Empire Strikes Back 3 00:00:09,270 --> 00:00:10,575 in 1980... 4 00:00:10,619 --> 00:00:14,797 -[SLAMS] -audiences were left hanging. 5 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:16,712 It could've been a better ending. 6 00:00:16,755 --> 00:00:20,281 NARRATOR: And theStar Wars saga would never be the same, 7 00:00:20,324 --> 00:00:23,153 but the production of the film itself had left George Lucas 8 00:00:23,197 --> 00:00:27,984 in a similar, albeit more personal, state of uncertainty. 9 00:00:28,028 --> 00:00:31,074 He wanted to be in control of his own destiny. 10 00:00:31,118 --> 00:00:33,598 NARRATOR: After stepping back from the director's chair, 11 00:00:33,642 --> 00:00:36,036 with eyes on building his corporate empire... 12 00:00:36,079 --> 00:00:38,603 MARCIA: George always said to me, "I've got a company now. 13 00:00:38,647 --> 00:00:39,952 "I'm a success. 14 00:00:39,996 --> 00:00:42,738 "I will never, ever give up my company." 15 00:00:42,781 --> 00:00:45,480 NARRATOR: The production, free from his watchful eye, 16 00:00:45,523 --> 00:00:48,048 veered off course. 17 00:00:48,091 --> 00:00:51,442 If Empirehadn't been a hit, he could've lost everything. 18 00:00:51,486 --> 00:00:53,531 NARRATOR: And, so, as George Lucas set out 19 00:00:53,575 --> 00:00:56,186 to conclude his epic saga in the stars, 20 00:00:56,230 --> 00:00:58,841 he would need to balance his time more deftly 21 00:00:58,884 --> 00:01:01,278 between the soundstage and the boardroom. 22 00:01:01,322 --> 00:01:02,627 He had a bigger vision. 23 00:01:02,671 --> 00:01:04,020 NARRATOR: But there was only so much 24 00:01:04,064 --> 00:01:06,240 of this modern mogul to go around. 25 00:01:06,283 --> 00:01:09,199 The Star Warsfilms are producing a great many strains 26 00:01:09,243 --> 00:01:11,375 for George Lucas including a strain 27 00:01:11,419 --> 00:01:13,334 on his marriage with Marcia. 28 00:01:13,377 --> 00:01:16,728 NARRATOR: And as the trilogy hurtled towards its climactic end, 29 00:01:16,772 --> 00:01:19,905 Lucas was heading to the end of a more personal chapter. 30 00:01:19,949 --> 00:01:21,951 We all knew something was amiss. 31 00:01:21,994 --> 00:01:23,996 [EXCITING MUSIC] 32 00:01:53,939 --> 00:01:56,290 [BUILDING MUSIC] 33 00:01:56,333 --> 00:01:58,553 Star Warswas act one. 34 00:01:58,596 --> 00:02:01,251 Empire Strikes Back was the storytelling. 35 00:02:01,295 --> 00:02:03,079 The meat of it, act two. 36 00:02:03,123 --> 00:02:06,256 NARRATOR: And now with a third movie a guarantee, 37 00:02:06,300 --> 00:02:09,129 Star Wars, both on and off the screen, 38 00:02:09,172 --> 00:02:10,434 needed its conclusion. 39 00:02:10,478 --> 00:02:13,350 The third one, I think... 40 00:02:13,394 --> 00:02:16,832 we have to top it to complete the story 41 00:02:16,875 --> 00:02:19,617 and unfortunately... 42 00:02:19,661 --> 00:02:22,490 uh, there's things in the way... And I don't mean the Ewoks. 43 00:02:22,533 --> 00:02:24,796 NARRATOR: Quite a few things in the way, in fact. 44 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,538 Um...um... scary, little dudes. 45 00:02:27,582 --> 00:02:30,846 NARRATOR: First and foremost was something far less adorable 46 00:02:30,889 --> 00:02:32,413 yet still relatively hairy. 47 00:02:32,456 --> 00:02:35,372 George's relationship with Gary Kurtz 48 00:02:35,416 --> 00:02:38,070 who'd been mostly replaced on the last picture 49 00:02:38,114 --> 00:02:39,768 by Howard Kazanjian. 50 00:02:39,811 --> 00:02:43,119 I took over the picture at the end when it went over budget. 51 00:02:43,163 --> 00:02:45,034 NARRATOR: But now as the wheels begin to turn 52 00:02:45,077 --> 00:02:47,167 on the third movie in the trilogy, 53 00:02:47,210 --> 00:02:48,907 it seemed that Gary didn't exactly know 54 00:02:48,951 --> 00:02:50,866 where he stood with George, 55 00:02:50,909 --> 00:02:54,261 as evident in this awkward encounter during pre-production 56 00:02:54,304 --> 00:02:57,220 for what would become Return of the Jedi. 57 00:02:57,264 --> 00:02:59,048 KAZANJIAN: I was in London to prepare 58 00:02:59,091 --> 00:03:01,093 and Gary walked in. He said, "Hey. 59 00:03:01,137 --> 00:03:03,792 "What are you doing here?" And I told him 60 00:03:03,835 --> 00:03:07,012 that I was doing work with the crew 61 00:03:07,056 --> 00:03:10,538 for the next Star Warspicture. 62 00:03:10,581 --> 00:03:12,496 And, yes, he turned white 63 00:03:12,540 --> 00:03:13,715 because he hadn't been told. 64 00:03:13,758 --> 00:03:16,152 He says, "No, George never told me." 65 00:03:16,196 --> 00:03:19,764 Now, it was very difficult for me to tell Gary 66 00:03:19,808 --> 00:03:22,245 he's not on the next picture. 67 00:03:22,289 --> 00:03:23,768 That wasn't my job. 68 00:03:23,812 --> 00:03:25,901 I thought George had told him. 69 00:03:25,944 --> 00:03:27,816 [JAZZ MUSIC] 70 00:03:27,859 --> 00:03:30,253 NARRATOR: With Gary gone and George truly free 71 00:03:30,297 --> 00:03:32,299 from the financial clutches of bank loans... 72 00:03:32,342 --> 00:03:36,172 Lucas is finally able to do what no one in history 73 00:03:36,216 --> 00:03:37,608 had been able to do before. 74 00:03:37,652 --> 00:03:39,741 NARRATOR: George Lucas was about to achieve 75 00:03:39,784 --> 00:03:42,918 his long-awaited nirvana. Total control. 76 00:03:42,961 --> 00:03:44,876 TENUTO: He was able to become his own studio because 77 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,357 of The Empire Strikes Back and the money that was made. 78 00:03:47,401 --> 00:03:49,446 And that's really what he was interested in. 79 00:03:49,490 --> 00:03:50,969 It wasn't about the money. 80 00:03:51,013 --> 00:03:53,798 It was about the ability to become his own studio. 81 00:03:53,842 --> 00:03:57,846 He's doing a lot of things that are innovative in the industry. 82 00:03:57,889 --> 00:04:02,154 He started this company that was digitalizing editing. 83 00:04:02,198 --> 00:04:05,288 And then he started his THX sound system 84 00:04:05,332 --> 00:04:07,290 that they were using in theaters. 85 00:04:07,334 --> 00:04:09,161 NARRATOR: And let's not forget Lucas's ventures 86 00:04:09,205 --> 00:04:12,643 into the then nascent technology of computer animation. 87 00:04:12,687 --> 00:04:14,906 I mean, he was always thinking to the future. 88 00:04:14,950 --> 00:04:16,560 NARRATOR: And as George presided over 89 00:04:16,604 --> 00:04:19,563 this burgeoning corporate empire as commander-in-chief, 90 00:04:19,607 --> 00:04:22,914 his wife, Marcia, now retired from her film editing career, 91 00:04:22,958 --> 00:04:26,657 had settled into her role as a first lady of sorts. 92 00:04:26,701 --> 00:04:28,006 MARCIA: As the company grew, 93 00:04:28,050 --> 00:04:29,878 George wanted to have a Board of Directors 94 00:04:29,921 --> 00:04:31,575 and he was Chairman of the Board, 95 00:04:31,619 --> 00:04:33,316 he made me the Vice Chairman of the Board. 96 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,753 I worked on the ranch, I did the interior design work, 97 00:04:35,797 --> 00:04:39,191 the architectural design, and I was doing everything. 98 00:04:39,235 --> 00:04:41,324 NARRATOR: And under Marcia's benevolent reign, 99 00:04:41,368 --> 00:04:44,196 Lucasfilm became more than just a company. 100 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,722 The company referred to itself, as all of us did, 101 00:04:47,765 --> 00:04:50,202 the Lucasfilm family. 102 00:04:50,246 --> 00:04:52,683 She was the family of Lucasfilm. 103 00:04:52,727 --> 00:04:55,817 She was the heart. The, you know, 104 00:04:55,860 --> 00:04:58,950 "Let's all get together for Thanksgiving meal." 105 00:04:58,994 --> 00:05:01,779 I started giving all our employees Christmas gifts every year 106 00:05:01,823 --> 00:05:04,608 and having a Christmas party, and having a Fourth of July party. 107 00:05:04,652 --> 00:05:07,002 DUNHAM: She made sure people were happy 108 00:05:07,045 --> 00:05:08,656 and that's why it was a family. 109 00:05:08,699 --> 00:05:10,397 Everybody will tell you that. 110 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:12,312 NARRATOR: And what everyone also knew 111 00:05:12,355 --> 00:05:15,489 was that George Lucas had one more Star Wars film to make 112 00:05:15,532 --> 00:05:18,622 and this time he was holding the purse strings. 113 00:05:18,666 --> 00:05:20,668 He can start running his own budgets 114 00:05:20,711 --> 00:05:23,845 and begin to figure out how can he save money 115 00:05:23,888 --> 00:05:26,717 or allocate resources in a different way. 116 00:05:26,761 --> 00:05:28,763 So, going into Jedi, 117 00:05:28,806 --> 00:05:32,070 um, because of the cost overruns on Empire, 118 00:05:32,854 --> 00:05:34,899 Lucas wants it to be shot 119 00:05:34,943 --> 00:05:36,988 on a much tighter, stricter schedule. 120 00:05:37,032 --> 00:05:38,947 NARRATOR: And since George would now be effectively 121 00:05:38,990 --> 00:05:42,037 footing the bill himself, he set the budget at... 122 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:43,212 50,000. 123 00:05:43,255 --> 00:05:45,127 Thirty million dollars. 124 00:05:45,170 --> 00:05:47,129 NARRATOR: Which sounds like a lot, but... 125 00:05:47,172 --> 00:05:51,655 It's the same initially as... as Empire, 126 00:05:51,699 --> 00:05:54,310 though it's several years later, so it oughta be more, 127 00:05:54,354 --> 00:05:57,182 but by...with inflation, it's actually a little bit less. 128 00:05:57,226 --> 00:05:58,706 -[GROWLS] -C-3PO: [SCREAMS] 129 00:05:58,749 --> 00:06:00,360 -[CRASHES] -[GROWLS] 130 00:06:00,403 --> 00:06:02,449 NARRATOR: Beholden to a relatively modest budget, 131 00:06:02,492 --> 00:06:04,407 George would be holding a tight leash. 132 00:06:04,451 --> 00:06:06,627 But before George and the team could work on the script, 133 00:06:06,670 --> 00:06:10,979 there was one potentially very expensive problem that needed resolving. 134 00:06:11,022 --> 00:06:14,069 Harrison Ford wasn't signed. 135 00:06:14,112 --> 00:06:15,418 KAZANJIAN: I just said to George, 136 00:06:15,462 --> 00:06:17,072 "Why isn't he in the third one?" 137 00:06:17,115 --> 00:06:19,814 "Well, he's not in the third one 'cause he didn't want to do it." 138 00:06:19,857 --> 00:06:22,469 It wasn't that George didn't want him, 139 00:06:22,512 --> 00:06:24,775 he wasn't contracted to be in the third. 140 00:06:24,819 --> 00:06:27,125 That's why he was killed off in Empire. 141 00:06:27,169 --> 00:06:29,214 He was put in carbon freezing. 142 00:06:29,258 --> 00:06:31,956 NARRATOR: With a key character in suspended animation, 143 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:35,395 Howard decided it was essential to press the defrost button. 144 00:06:35,438 --> 00:06:38,223 So Howard Kazanjian, he called Harrison Ford's agent 145 00:06:38,267 --> 00:06:40,965 and, apparently, uh, the agent was out of town, 146 00:06:41,009 --> 00:06:42,924 but his son was working for the agency... 147 00:06:42,967 --> 00:06:45,361 And I needed to negotiate his deal 148 00:06:45,405 --> 00:06:48,538 and David and I negotiated his fee. 149 00:06:48,582 --> 00:06:50,975 And made it a really good deal for the company... 150 00:06:51,019 --> 00:06:53,500 I went to George, he said, "Okay, 151 00:06:53,543 --> 00:06:54,849 "we'll write him in." 152 00:06:54,892 --> 00:06:56,807 NARRATOR: But when Ford's agent returned 153 00:06:56,851 --> 00:06:58,548 to hear about the deal... 154 00:06:58,592 --> 00:07:01,464 And when Phil came back from vacation 155 00:07:01,508 --> 00:07:04,902 he called me and he said, "You cheated my son." 156 00:07:04,946 --> 00:07:08,428 He said, "You talked my son into a certain fee." 157 00:07:08,471 --> 00:07:09,907 And I said, "No, 158 00:07:09,951 --> 00:07:12,475 "that...that's the going... That's what we're paying. 159 00:07:12,519 --> 00:07:14,129 "Period. End of subject." 160 00:07:14,172 --> 00:07:16,827 NARRATOR: And what they were paying wasn't half bad. 161 00:07:16,871 --> 00:07:19,526 Look, they made good money. 162 00:07:19,569 --> 00:07:23,878 They had terrific back ends. Those pictures paid off. 163 00:07:23,921 --> 00:07:26,489 NARRATOR: So, with this rogue hero on board, 164 00:07:26,533 --> 00:07:29,405 George could confidently proceed developing the story. 165 00:07:29,449 --> 00:07:32,843 George Lucas writes an outline early on 166 00:07:32,887 --> 00:07:37,065 and they were doing design work off of the outline. 167 00:07:37,108 --> 00:07:39,546 They were doing pre-production work off of the outline. 168 00:07:39,589 --> 00:07:41,417 They were doing scouting. 169 00:07:41,461 --> 00:07:44,551 Howard Kazanjian finally says, like, "You have to give me a script." 170 00:07:44,594 --> 00:07:48,032 So George finally sits down and he writes the first draft 171 00:07:48,076 --> 00:07:49,860 well into pre-production. 172 00:07:49,904 --> 00:07:52,384 The original story is that Leia learns that there are 173 00:07:52,428 --> 00:07:54,778 two Death Stars that are under construction 174 00:07:54,822 --> 00:07:57,825 and she leads a mission to investigate and, if possible, 175 00:07:57,868 --> 00:07:59,304 destroy these Death Stars. 176 00:07:59,348 --> 00:08:01,263 NARRATOR: Marcia Lucas believed the only thing 177 00:08:01,306 --> 00:08:04,396 that needed to be blown up was the script. 178 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,790 Marcia didn't care for it too much. 179 00:08:06,834 --> 00:08:09,880 And she would say, "George, this scene is shit!" 180 00:08:09,924 --> 00:08:14,145 And, of course, we went back and redid it again. 181 00:08:14,189 --> 00:08:15,495 We shall double our efforts. 182 00:08:15,538 --> 00:08:17,409 NARRATOR: Oh, that's fantastic advice. 183 00:08:17,453 --> 00:08:20,978 What a handsome, young devil if I do say so myself. [CLEARS THROAT] 184 00:08:21,022 --> 00:08:23,067 Looking for new ideas, 185 00:08:23,111 --> 00:08:25,069 George turned to a trusted friend for help. 186 00:08:25,113 --> 00:08:27,028 Then they bring in Lawrence Kasdan. 187 00:08:27,071 --> 00:08:29,596 NARRATOR: The writer ofThe Empire Strikes Back. 188 00:08:29,639 --> 00:08:32,860 MORTON: So, Kasdan comes in and does a rewrite. 189 00:08:32,903 --> 00:08:35,210 George then rewrites Kasdan. 190 00:08:35,253 --> 00:08:37,734 Kasdan rewrites George. 191 00:08:37,778 --> 00:08:40,607 As these conversations are going on, they kinda drift 192 00:08:40,650 --> 00:08:43,784 back to the idea of doing the Death Star again. 193 00:08:43,827 --> 00:08:46,743 And then, eventually, they come up with a half finished Death Star. 194 00:08:46,787 --> 00:08:48,571 NARRATOR: This was all starting to sound 195 00:08:48,615 --> 00:08:51,356 more like return of the... Death Star. 196 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:53,707 Lucas even acknowledges it several times. 197 00:08:53,750 --> 00:08:55,709 "Yes, we're repeating ourselves, 198 00:08:55,752 --> 00:08:58,842 "but basically, I can't think of anything else that's really gonna work." 199 00:08:58,886 --> 00:09:00,670 NARRATOR: Don't worry, they never really did. 200 00:09:00,714 --> 00:09:01,889 It's another Death Star. 201 00:09:01,932 --> 00:09:03,499 I wish that were the case, Major, 202 00:09:03,543 --> 00:09:06,067 -this is Starkiller Base. -[CROWD EXCLAIMS] 203 00:09:06,110 --> 00:09:07,329 NARRATOR: That's another story. 204 00:09:07,372 --> 00:09:10,332 As for this one, unlike the dark tones 205 00:09:10,375 --> 00:09:13,204 and adult themes ofEmpire Strikes Back... 206 00:09:13,248 --> 00:09:16,425 George wanted to take Jediback 207 00:09:16,468 --> 00:09:18,993 to the nine-year-old audience. 208 00:09:19,036 --> 00:09:20,603 More likeStar Wars. 209 00:09:20,647 --> 00:09:22,562 -[SPEAKS GIBBERISH] -[HIGH-PITCH BEEPING, BUZZING] 210 00:09:22,605 --> 00:09:25,216 NARRATOR: George knew that small children were big business. 211 00:09:25,260 --> 00:09:28,132 And so, even without a fully-formed story... 212 00:09:28,176 --> 00:09:30,482 He was obsessed with introducing the Ewoks. 213 00:09:30,526 --> 00:09:33,181 [SPEAKING GIBBERISH] 214 00:09:33,224 --> 00:09:35,226 He thought they were gonna sell millions of toys. 215 00:09:35,270 --> 00:09:37,707 [SPEAKS GIBBERISH] 216 00:09:37,751 --> 00:09:40,362 Having the license for Star Warswas really like 217 00:09:40,405 --> 00:09:42,625 having a license to print money. 218 00:09:42,669 --> 00:09:43,931 You can see dollar signs. 219 00:09:44,888 --> 00:09:45,933 [CASH REGISTER CHINGS] 220 00:09:45,976 --> 00:09:48,500 He repurposes a storyline 221 00:09:48,544 --> 00:09:50,633 from one of his original drafts ofStar Wars. 222 00:09:50,677 --> 00:09:54,289 The adventurers land on a forest planet 223 00:09:54,332 --> 00:09:56,378 inhabited by Wookiees. 224 00:09:56,421 --> 00:09:58,119 NARRATOR: But co-pilot Chewbacca 225 00:09:58,162 --> 00:10:00,164 had set the bar high for Wookiees. 226 00:10:00,208 --> 00:10:03,211 The Wookiees were too sophisticated. 227 00:10:03,254 --> 00:10:04,560 NARRATOR: Lucas decided he needed 228 00:10:04,604 --> 00:10:07,607 a new species no one would take seriously. 229 00:10:07,650 --> 00:10:11,393 Joe Johnston and Phil Tippett worked on designs. 230 00:10:11,436 --> 00:10:13,787 TIPPETT: I made some stuff that was kind of like rat people. 231 00:10:13,830 --> 00:10:17,617 And then I made some things that were kinda like Neanderthal men with, like, 232 00:10:17,660 --> 00:10:19,096 big mouths and sharp teeth 233 00:10:19,140 --> 00:10:20,532 because in the, you know, 234 00:10:20,576 --> 00:10:23,666 the idea was that they were, uh...cannibals. 235 00:10:23,710 --> 00:10:25,842 Wait. [EXHALES SHARPLY] 236 00:10:25,886 --> 00:10:27,104 NARRATOR: Leaving Phil Tippett 237 00:10:27,148 --> 00:10:30,064 to create some cuddly cannibals, 238 00:10:30,107 --> 00:10:33,676 George got his arms around the next major challenge. 239 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:35,939 For some reason George needed a stand in, 240 00:10:35,983 --> 00:10:38,420 a stooge to direct 241 00:10:38,463 --> 00:10:39,682 because he didn't want to 242 00:10:39,726 --> 00:10:41,336 or he couldn't for whatever reason. 243 00:10:41,379 --> 00:10:43,120 George has to find a new director. 244 00:10:44,905 --> 00:10:47,342 NARRATOR: Unwilling to direct the nextStar Wars movie... 245 00:10:47,385 --> 00:10:49,126 George has to find a new director. 246 00:10:49,170 --> 00:10:52,129 Question becomes why not bring back Irvin Kershner? 247 00:10:52,173 --> 00:10:53,957 NARRATOR: Kershner had helmed the second film, 248 00:10:54,001 --> 00:10:55,698 but wasn't interested in another turn 249 00:10:55,742 --> 00:10:57,091 in the director's chair. 250 00:10:57,134 --> 00:10:59,702 He didn't want to be an employee of Star Wars. 251 00:10:59,746 --> 00:11:02,139 He wanted to go do another... You know, his own projects. 252 00:11:02,183 --> 00:11:04,751 NARRATOR: Ironically, George Lucas had the power 253 00:11:04,794 --> 00:11:09,233 to do his own projects, but had lost the desire. 254 00:11:09,277 --> 00:11:11,845 He didn't want to direct anymore and I kept telling him, 255 00:11:11,888 --> 00:11:13,542 "George, you're a good director. 256 00:11:13,585 --> 00:11:15,544 "George, you're a great director." [CHUCKLES] 257 00:11:15,587 --> 00:11:18,460 NARRATOR: Star Wars had Lucas made for life, 258 00:11:18,503 --> 00:11:20,505 but also scarred for life. 259 00:11:20,549 --> 00:11:22,290 CHRISTIAN: You know, it's agony for George. 260 00:11:22,333 --> 00:11:25,119 The pain that he went through on the first one, 261 00:11:25,162 --> 00:11:27,121 it's hard to remove all of that. 262 00:11:27,164 --> 00:11:31,908 I'm not always so sure that he wants to direct. 263 00:11:31,952 --> 00:11:37,392 George was not happy and thrilled to be making motion pictures... 264 00:11:37,435 --> 00:11:42,092 with the big crews, the talent, the actors. 265 00:11:42,136 --> 00:11:45,052 NARRATOR: George needed a compliant and competent director 266 00:11:45,095 --> 00:11:46,749 who would do his bidding. 267 00:11:46,793 --> 00:11:48,229 A safe pair of hands 268 00:11:48,272 --> 00:11:50,884 or he could just ask David Lynch. 269 00:11:50,927 --> 00:11:55,192 George had seen a number of David Lynch's pictures. 270 00:11:55,236 --> 00:11:56,890 [UPBEAT MUSIC] 271 00:11:56,933 --> 00:11:58,805 NARRATOR: If Lynch was the wildcard, 272 00:11:58,848 --> 00:12:00,720 on the other side of the Atlantic was a man 273 00:12:00,763 --> 00:12:03,723 who was the American auteur's total opposite. 274 00:12:03,766 --> 00:12:05,681 Richard Marquand was a British director. 275 00:12:05,725 --> 00:12:08,379 He had worked for the BBC. He started in documentaries. 276 00:12:08,423 --> 00:12:10,555 KAZANJIAN: And we saw Eye of the Needle 277 00:12:10,599 --> 00:12:13,558 while he was still in post production and mixing it 278 00:12:13,602 --> 00:12:15,735 and we liked it very, very much. 279 00:12:15,778 --> 00:12:19,434 And it really came down to two people. 280 00:12:20,696 --> 00:12:23,786 David Lynch was running neck-and-neck 281 00:12:23,830 --> 00:12:25,309 with Richard Marquand. 282 00:12:25,353 --> 00:12:27,703 NARRATOR: Only George Lucas could separate them. 283 00:12:27,747 --> 00:12:29,183 So, he made the call. 284 00:12:29,226 --> 00:12:31,576 KAZANJIAN: "Let's go with David Lynch 285 00:12:31,620 --> 00:12:34,928 "and you call Richard Marquand right away 286 00:12:34,971 --> 00:12:38,105 "because I don't want him to hear it through the grapevine." 287 00:12:38,148 --> 00:12:42,718 And I didn't. I called David Lynch first 288 00:12:42,762 --> 00:12:45,852 and David Lynch thanked me and said "Yes." 289 00:12:48,289 --> 00:12:52,597 And the very next day David Lynch called me back 290 00:12:52,641 --> 00:12:53,947 and he declined. 291 00:12:54,730 --> 00:12:56,514 Mostly because he thought 292 00:12:56,558 --> 00:12:59,604 George would be looking over his shoulder. 293 00:12:59,648 --> 00:13:01,737 NARRATOR: Lynch didn't like the sound of the deal, 294 00:13:01,781 --> 00:13:04,696 but he also didn't like the sound ofStar Wars. 295 00:13:04,740 --> 00:13:07,830 Well, I heard he didn't like Johnny Williams. 296 00:13:07,874 --> 00:13:10,659 I mean, in my opinion, Johnny Williams 297 00:13:10,702 --> 00:13:14,097 is one of the finest composers we have. 298 00:13:14,141 --> 00:13:17,318 Now, is...is it loud? Now, Ben Burtt will tell you 299 00:13:17,361 --> 00:13:20,843 that Johnny Williams' music covers up a lot of his sound. 300 00:13:21,365 --> 00:13:23,106 All right. 301 00:13:23,150 --> 00:13:25,979 NARRATOR: So, Howard Kazanjian knew what he had to do next. 302 00:13:26,022 --> 00:13:28,459 And I called Richard Marquand 303 00:13:28,503 --> 00:13:30,635 and that's how we settled on Richard Marquand. 304 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,638 [UPBEAT EXCITING MUSIC] 305 00:13:33,682 --> 00:13:35,162 NARRATOR: With the director locked in, 306 00:13:35,205 --> 00:13:38,556 back at Skywalker Ranch, George and Lawrence Kasdan 307 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:41,037 continued to go back and forth on the script, 308 00:13:41,081 --> 00:13:42,604 even though they weren't yet sure 309 00:13:42,647 --> 00:13:45,172 -exactly what they'd need. -TIPPETT: George said, 310 00:13:45,215 --> 00:13:47,957 "Pull a crew together and make a bunch of space aliens." 311 00:13:48,001 --> 00:13:51,918 NARRATOR: So, Lucas called in Hollywood's preeminent puppet master. 312 00:13:51,961 --> 00:13:55,399 He was very specific about space aliens. 313 00:13:55,443 --> 00:13:58,489 NARRATOR: Phil and his team set about creating new species. 314 00:13:58,533 --> 00:13:59,751 "Space aliens, you know?" 315 00:13:59,795 --> 00:14:01,405 NARRATOR: Dozens of new creatures 316 00:14:01,449 --> 00:14:03,103 for George to mix and match from. 317 00:14:03,146 --> 00:14:06,193 Creating whole new characters on the fly. 318 00:14:06,236 --> 00:14:08,586 Late at night come, like, nine o'clock at night 319 00:14:08,630 --> 00:14:10,719 or something, George would show up 320 00:14:10,762 --> 00:14:14,549 in the workshop and play with the different characters. 321 00:14:14,592 --> 00:14:16,464 Then he'd pick things out. 322 00:14:16,507 --> 00:14:19,206 "What's that one?" And go, like, 323 00:14:19,249 --> 00:14:20,685 "This yellow thing 324 00:14:20,729 --> 00:14:23,688 "with long legs is gonna be a singer 325 00:14:23,732 --> 00:14:27,562 "and this little blue thing is gonna play the piano. 326 00:14:28,302 --> 00:14:29,825 "What's that one?" 327 00:14:29,869 --> 00:14:31,740 He said, "Oh, that's Admiral Ackbar." 328 00:14:31,783 --> 00:14:33,916 NARRATOR: Oh, but not Ackbar as you know him. 329 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:37,659 First one they plucked off the shelf to be the Admiral 330 00:14:37,702 --> 00:14:40,227 was a character Ree-Yees. 331 00:14:40,270 --> 00:14:43,012 And because he had the three eyes, 332 00:14:43,056 --> 00:14:45,362 you could never give him really good eye focus. 333 00:14:45,406 --> 00:14:47,408 You know, when he looked right into the lens. 334 00:14:47,451 --> 00:14:50,933 "So, which one of my three eyes is really looking at ya?" [CHUCKLES] You know? 335 00:14:50,977 --> 00:14:52,500 [LOW GROWLING] 336 00:14:52,543 --> 00:14:55,416 I said, "So, who is that that we're working on here?" 337 00:14:55,459 --> 00:14:57,026 And Phil just said... 338 00:14:57,070 --> 00:14:58,636 Oh, that's a calamari man. 339 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:00,725 NARRATOR: Now he would be Admiral Ackbar. 340 00:15:00,769 --> 00:15:04,381 Just like, "Well, you know, there's that. Done. Next." 341 00:15:04,425 --> 00:15:06,340 It's a trap. [CHUCKLES] 342 00:15:06,383 --> 00:15:08,168 NARRATOR: While this trademark menagerie 343 00:15:08,211 --> 00:15:10,561 drew inspiration from everything, 344 00:15:10,605 --> 00:15:12,781 from cephalopods to reptiles, 345 00:15:12,824 --> 00:15:14,696 there was one creature whose origins 346 00:15:14,739 --> 00:15:16,828 were surprisingly human. 347 00:15:16,872 --> 00:15:20,441 At the beginning, there was no real direction. 348 00:15:20,484 --> 00:15:22,791 He just wanted to see what we'd come up with. 349 00:15:22,834 --> 00:15:24,532 NARRATOR: A corpulent gangster villain, 350 00:15:24,575 --> 00:15:28,275 Jabba the Hutt began life as sketches by Phil Tippett. 351 00:15:28,318 --> 00:15:30,755 TIPPETT: I asked him if there was an actor 352 00:15:30,799 --> 00:15:33,715 that you could cast 353 00:15:33,758 --> 00:15:37,762 to play Jabba, who would that be? 354 00:15:37,806 --> 00:15:40,287 And he said, "Hmm, Sydney Greenstreet." 355 00:15:40,330 --> 00:15:41,984 NARRATOR: Sydney Greenstreet had played 356 00:15:42,028 --> 00:15:44,813 larger-than-life characters through Hollywood's Golden Era. 357 00:15:44,856 --> 00:15:47,990 And that was like the thing that just, like, lit up my mind. 358 00:15:48,034 --> 00:15:49,905 NARRATOR: He could never have imagined 359 00:15:49,949 --> 00:15:52,255 that his legacy would include this. 360 00:15:52,299 --> 00:15:54,475 This very fat, slug-like creature. 361 00:15:54,518 --> 00:15:57,304 I love the reveal of Jabba the Hutt 362 00:15:57,347 --> 00:15:59,741 with Princess Leia sitting there on her chain. 363 00:15:59,784 --> 00:16:01,612 -HAN: Where's Leia? -LEIA: I'm here. 364 00:16:01,656 --> 00:16:04,920 [SPEAKS ALIEN LANGUAGE] 365 00:16:04,964 --> 00:16:09,838 I just love it when you cut to that big monster slug. 366 00:16:09,881 --> 00:16:12,232 RALSTON: The Jabba puppet was huge. 367 00:16:12,275 --> 00:16:14,843 There were a lot of puppeteers crammed in there. 368 00:16:14,886 --> 00:16:16,149 [PERSON STRAINING, PANTING] 369 00:16:16,192 --> 00:16:17,759 You know, it was a difficult thing to operate. 370 00:16:17,802 --> 00:16:20,153 NARRATOR: Although creating a character may have been hard, 371 00:16:20,196 --> 00:16:22,416 sometimes naming one is as easy 372 00:16:22,459 --> 00:16:25,114 as grabbing a few late- night drinks. 373 00:16:25,158 --> 00:16:26,898 TIPPETT: We were at a Mexican restaurant 374 00:16:26,942 --> 00:16:30,032 and we were getting ready to go and I was, 375 00:16:30,076 --> 00:16:32,382 you know, my shoes were untied 376 00:16:32,426 --> 00:16:34,776 and I was gonna go, "Oh, before we go, 377 00:16:34,819 --> 00:16:38,040 "I've got to tie my 'suelacious'." 378 00:16:38,084 --> 00:16:41,522 And it was like, "I mean, shoe laces." 379 00:16:41,565 --> 00:16:43,393 And that... But that's what we called it. 380 00:16:43,437 --> 00:16:45,787 [CHUCKLING] You know, and then George would take that 381 00:16:45,830 --> 00:16:48,007 and go, "Yeah, that's okay." You know, and run with it. 382 00:16:48,050 --> 00:16:49,791 [LAUGHS] 383 00:16:49,834 --> 00:16:51,314 NARRATOR: Meanwhile, over in London, 384 00:16:51,358 --> 00:16:53,708 as pre-production ramped up it was time 385 00:16:53,751 --> 00:16:56,537 for Richard Marquand to slip into high gear. 386 00:16:56,580 --> 00:16:58,321 It was the gig of a lifetime 387 00:16:58,365 --> 00:17:00,758 for this modestly successful director. 388 00:17:00,802 --> 00:17:03,239 And an opportunity not to be squandered. 389 00:17:03,283 --> 00:17:06,242 But Richard, um... 390 00:17:06,286 --> 00:17:09,854 would show up about... after lunch 391 00:17:09,898 --> 00:17:12,205 in pre-production. 392 00:17:12,248 --> 00:17:13,945 NARRATOR: And, so, with a part-time director 393 00:17:13,989 --> 00:17:17,036 and a partly done script, we should give credit 394 00:17:17,079 --> 00:17:20,082 to Howard Kazanjian for holding it all together. 395 00:17:20,126 --> 00:17:23,607 Kazanjian was making up a schedule and a budget 396 00:17:23,651 --> 00:17:26,828 and all the other paperwork kind of off this... 397 00:17:26,871 --> 00:17:28,264 with no pages. With no script. 398 00:17:28,308 --> 00:17:29,657 And I was looking at the sets. 399 00:17:29,700 --> 00:17:31,354 I was telling the art department, 400 00:17:31,398 --> 00:17:33,574 "Yes, no." Or "Higher, lower." 401 00:17:33,617 --> 00:17:36,142 Which is so extraordinarily unusual. 402 00:17:36,185 --> 00:17:39,449 NARRATOR: Unusual in that it was really a job for the director. 403 00:17:39,493 --> 00:17:42,061 And I felt very awkward about that 404 00:17:42,104 --> 00:17:43,975 because he's the director. 405 00:17:44,019 --> 00:17:46,717 NARRATOR: Howard was already stepping in for his director, 406 00:17:46,761 --> 00:17:50,243 but he wasn't sure Marquand could actually handle the job. 407 00:17:50,286 --> 00:17:51,940 And, so, I called George 408 00:17:51,983 --> 00:17:55,117 when he said I'm... he's coming in for the first two weeks 409 00:17:55,161 --> 00:17:59,121 and I said, "You better pack for the full shoot." 410 00:17:59,165 --> 00:18:01,080 [UPBEAT MUSIC] 411 00:18:02,646 --> 00:18:04,039 NARRATOR: Arriving in London 412 00:18:04,083 --> 00:18:05,910 with a bigger suitcase than planned, 413 00:18:05,954 --> 00:18:08,478 George and his new director moved ever closer 414 00:18:08,522 --> 00:18:10,654 to the impending start of shooting, 415 00:18:10,698 --> 00:18:13,527 but they still had plenty of casting to do. 416 00:18:13,570 --> 00:18:16,573 For example, who would play the Emperor 417 00:18:16,617 --> 00:18:19,228 because it couldn't be the same actor from the last movie. 418 00:18:19,272 --> 00:18:21,317 [CHIMP SQUEAKS] 419 00:18:21,361 --> 00:18:23,754 NARRATOR: The rise of the Emperor Palpatine 420 00:18:23,798 --> 00:18:25,365 was a changing of the guard. 421 00:18:25,408 --> 00:18:28,585 Darth Vader who was the main villain in Empire, 422 00:18:28,629 --> 00:18:31,980 ends up kind of dropping back to a henchman character. 423 00:18:32,023 --> 00:18:34,809 NARRATOR: Meaning a bigger role for whoever played his boss. 424 00:18:34,852 --> 00:18:37,159 Rise, my friend. 425 00:18:37,203 --> 00:18:40,336 NARRATOR: George knew exactly what he was looking for in an Emperor 426 00:18:40,380 --> 00:18:42,338 and there was something about this man. 427 00:18:42,382 --> 00:18:43,948 I got a call from my agent, 428 00:18:43,992 --> 00:18:46,299 you know, not that unusual in itself. 429 00:18:46,342 --> 00:18:48,431 Um, and he said, 430 00:18:48,475 --> 00:18:50,259 "George Lucas would like to meet you." 431 00:18:50,303 --> 00:18:52,174 NARRATOR: Theatre actor Ian McDiarmid 432 00:18:52,218 --> 00:18:53,958 was summoned to Elstree Studios. 433 00:18:54,002 --> 00:18:57,092 And George Lucas and Richard Marquand were there. 434 00:18:57,136 --> 00:18:58,659 Well, it was fairly pleasant, you know, 435 00:18:58,702 --> 00:19:01,009 "Hello? How are you? What are you up to?" All of that. 436 00:19:01,052 --> 00:19:02,967 And that lasted for about ten minutes. 437 00:19:03,011 --> 00:19:06,710 And then George said, "Thank you very much. Great to meet you." 438 00:19:06,754 --> 00:19:10,584 And as I was going away out of the door, I heard... 439 00:19:10,627 --> 00:19:12,629 George denies this, but I know it's true, 440 00:19:12,673 --> 00:19:14,805 [CHUCKLES] I heard George say to Richard, 441 00:19:14,849 --> 00:19:17,286 "Hey, great nose." 442 00:19:17,330 --> 00:19:20,246 I thought, "Oh, well... that's optimistic, isn't it?" 443 00:19:20,289 --> 00:19:21,856 But I didn't think anything would come of it. 444 00:19:21,899 --> 00:19:23,510 You know, ten minutes and not even talking about 445 00:19:23,553 --> 00:19:25,816 the part, the film, no script whatever. 446 00:19:25,860 --> 00:19:28,645 So I got in that car and went back home, 447 00:19:28,689 --> 00:19:31,257 and this is all true, the phone was ringing as I got in... 448 00:19:31,300 --> 00:19:33,084 [TELEPHONE RINGING] 449 00:19:33,128 --> 00:19:34,738 And I picked it up and it was my agent again. 450 00:19:34,782 --> 00:19:37,045 He said, "Great news. You've got the part." 451 00:19:37,088 --> 00:19:41,267 I said, "[STAMMERS] What? Uh... What part?" 452 00:19:41,310 --> 00:19:45,227 And, uh, he said, "Oh, he's called the Emperor of the Universe." 453 00:19:45,271 --> 00:19:47,969 So, I said, "Oh, right. Well, we'll be doing it then." 454 00:19:48,012 --> 00:19:49,579 NARRATOR: He began doing it when shooting 455 00:19:49,623 --> 00:19:53,104 forReturn of the Jedi started in early 1982 456 00:19:53,148 --> 00:19:54,323 and like its predecessors, 457 00:19:54,367 --> 00:19:56,456 it walked straight into a storm. 458 00:20:04,159 --> 00:20:07,206 Jedibegan filming with the sandstorm sequence 459 00:20:07,249 --> 00:20:09,338 where all of the characters came back together 460 00:20:09,382 --> 00:20:11,079 after the escape from Jabba. 461 00:20:15,910 --> 00:20:21,002 Lucas was not happy with a lot of what Marquand was doing. 462 00:20:21,045 --> 00:20:23,091 NARRATOR: Early rushes proved as tough to watch 463 00:20:23,134 --> 00:20:24,658 as they had been to shoot. 464 00:20:24,701 --> 00:20:26,094 DUNHAM: I mean, there's sand blowing everywhere. 465 00:20:26,137 --> 00:20:29,271 You can't hear anything. You can't see anything. 466 00:20:29,315 --> 00:20:32,753 The... the dialogue is trash. 467 00:20:32,796 --> 00:20:35,103 It's... [LAUGHS] 468 00:20:35,146 --> 00:20:37,105 What are we doing here? 469 00:20:37,148 --> 00:20:39,977 NARRATOR: And so, it was George who stepped in and yelled, "Cut!" 470 00:20:40,021 --> 00:20:42,023 before scrapping the scene all together. 471 00:20:42,066 --> 00:20:45,113 MORTON: Marquand got overwhelmed pretty quickly. 472 00:20:45,156 --> 00:20:49,291 Like, he'd never made anything the size of Jedi. 473 00:20:49,335 --> 00:20:51,641 He was so out of his depth. 474 00:20:51,685 --> 00:20:54,035 NARRATOR: Lucas had intervened and averted disaster, 475 00:20:54,078 --> 00:20:56,690 but at the expense of his director's confidence. 476 00:20:56,733 --> 00:20:59,780 He'd come and say, "We're going to do that there. 477 00:20:59,823 --> 00:21:01,216 "We're going to do that there." 478 00:21:01,260 --> 00:21:03,305 [EVIL LAUGHTER ECHOES] 479 00:21:03,349 --> 00:21:05,829 A close up of Carrie would end up as a two-shot 480 00:21:05,873 --> 00:21:08,179 favoring Harrison because Harrison would go up 481 00:21:08,223 --> 00:21:11,052 and say, "You know, Marquand, we need to this, this and this." 482 00:21:11,095 --> 00:21:12,706 I don't take pleasure in saying on it. 483 00:21:12,749 --> 00:21:16,797 I take some relief in... in admitting it. 484 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,539 NARRATOR: Howard's warning had proved prescient. 485 00:21:19,582 --> 00:21:23,717 George was on the set every day for Return of the Jedi. 486 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:25,936 NARRATOR: George was back and now stuck doing 487 00:21:25,980 --> 00:21:28,678 exactly what he tried so hard to avoid. 488 00:21:28,722 --> 00:21:32,029 Then George chose to do the second unit himself 489 00:21:32,073 --> 00:21:33,988 so it was a good backup. 490 00:21:34,031 --> 00:21:36,382 NARRATOR: For this movie, George was leaving nothing to chance. 491 00:21:36,425 --> 00:21:39,036 DANIELS: He had no idea what to do 492 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,125 and you saw this on a daily basis. 493 00:21:41,169 --> 00:21:43,214 And, so, with nobody in charge, 494 00:21:43,258 --> 00:21:46,261 or one-and-a-half people in charge, there was a lack of focus. 495 00:21:46,305 --> 00:21:48,481 There was no sense of... 496 00:21:48,524 --> 00:21:50,613 the right person being in the right job. 497 00:21:50,657 --> 00:21:53,399 NARRATOR: George Lucas's hand-picked director 498 00:21:53,442 --> 00:21:55,836 had lost the confidence of his cast. 499 00:21:55,879 --> 00:21:58,795 Daniels felt very much like, uh, he was dismissed 500 00:21:58,839 --> 00:22:00,319 and ignored by Marquand. 501 00:22:00,362 --> 00:22:03,409 And I need a laugh from you at that part. 502 00:22:03,452 --> 00:22:04,671 A big, mean laugh. 503 00:22:04,714 --> 00:22:08,327 It's like this man is a complete fake 504 00:22:08,370 --> 00:22:11,721 and the more his "fakerism", new word, 505 00:22:11,765 --> 00:22:14,028 came to the fore, the more... 506 00:22:15,072 --> 00:22:17,379 pathetically bullying he became. 507 00:22:17,423 --> 00:22:20,556 He tried to pick on people. He tried to pick on me. I didn't like that. 508 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:22,123 NARRATOR: This was a problem 509 00:22:22,166 --> 00:22:25,344 no amount of cute, furry creatures was going to fix. 510 00:22:25,387 --> 00:22:27,694 He was dealing with... [STAMMERS] 511 00:22:27,737 --> 00:22:29,870 a director who couldn't direct, frankly. 512 00:22:29,913 --> 00:22:30,958 Or shouldn't direct. 513 00:22:31,001 --> 00:22:33,961 Then he sees him after that line. 514 00:22:34,004 --> 00:22:35,484 Ding! 515 00:22:35,528 --> 00:22:37,486 NARRATOR: Needing to steady the ship himself, 516 00:22:37,530 --> 00:22:41,708 George turned in desperation to one of his most trusted lieutenants. 517 00:22:41,751 --> 00:22:45,407 CHRISTIAN: George called me and said, "What are you doing?" 518 00:22:45,451 --> 00:22:47,583 He said, "Would you have about six weeks? 519 00:22:47,627 --> 00:22:51,413 "Could you come?" Because he was doing second unit 520 00:22:51,457 --> 00:22:52,936 on Return of the Jedi 521 00:22:52,980 --> 00:22:55,983 and he wanted to spend more time with Richard Marquand. 522 00:22:56,026 --> 00:22:57,941 So he said, "Can you come and take over?" 523 00:22:57,985 --> 00:23:01,467 I went on as second unit director and took over. 524 00:23:01,510 --> 00:23:04,687 George was, I believe, gonna be there for a few weeks. He stayed for the whole thing 525 00:23:04,731 --> 00:23:07,386 and I think that had a marked effect on his life. 526 00:23:07,429 --> 00:23:09,910 [SOMBER MUSIC] 527 00:23:09,953 --> 00:23:13,087 Lucas wants to make sure he's in control of that... of that sequel 528 00:23:13,130 --> 00:23:15,045 and in control of the direction of where it goes 529 00:23:15,089 --> 00:23:17,961 and he's preoccupied with Skywalker Ranch. 530 00:23:18,005 --> 00:23:20,094 The question could be asked, "Where does family 531 00:23:20,137 --> 00:23:23,532 "and free time fit in to all of this?" 532 00:23:23,576 --> 00:23:26,056 NARRATOR: Unfortunately for Marcia... 533 00:23:26,100 --> 00:23:27,318 nowhere. 534 00:23:27,362 --> 00:23:29,451 Marcia liked to do things. 535 00:23:29,495 --> 00:23:31,975 When it came to the Oscars, she'd say, 536 00:23:32,019 --> 00:23:33,629 "George doesn't wanna go." 537 00:23:33,673 --> 00:23:35,718 "I wanna go to the opera." 538 00:23:35,762 --> 00:23:38,155 He doesn't wanna go to the opera. 539 00:23:38,199 --> 00:23:40,593 He was not a very social person 540 00:23:40,636 --> 00:23:43,770 and I was a very, you know, social person 541 00:23:43,813 --> 00:23:45,249 and I loved to go to parties. 542 00:23:45,293 --> 00:23:48,209 She'd say, "George, I want to invite people in." 543 00:23:48,252 --> 00:23:51,473 He doesn't want to invite people in because he's... 544 00:23:51,517 --> 00:23:54,476 working all the time. He's a workaholic. 545 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,566 He always had the next thing that he was working on. 546 00:23:57,610 --> 00:23:59,307 Uh, and for poor Marcia, 547 00:23:59,350 --> 00:24:01,048 I think film was always the other woman. 548 00:24:01,091 --> 00:24:04,573 NARRATOR: Also for Marcia, well, we weren't there, 549 00:24:04,617 --> 00:24:07,533 but some people say there was an affair 550 00:24:07,576 --> 00:24:09,796 and others say there wasn't. 551 00:24:09,839 --> 00:24:13,930 About two-thirds to three-fourths of the way through Empire, 552 00:24:13,974 --> 00:24:16,411 she met this guy who was 553 00:24:16,455 --> 00:24:18,631 the head of the stained glass shop 554 00:24:18,674 --> 00:24:20,807 that was working on the Ranch. 555 00:24:20,850 --> 00:24:22,678 Tom Rodrigues. 556 00:24:22,722 --> 00:24:27,030 And it was pretty much obvious to a lot of the people, 557 00:24:27,074 --> 00:24:28,554 you know, working on the scene, 558 00:24:28,597 --> 00:24:31,121 there was something going on there. 559 00:24:33,689 --> 00:24:35,561 NARRATOR: George was waging a battle 560 00:24:35,604 --> 00:24:38,302 in a war for Lucasfilm and his destiny. 561 00:24:38,346 --> 00:24:40,914 Willing to sacrifice it all for victory. 562 00:24:40,957 --> 00:24:42,959 However, as the shoot in England continued, 563 00:24:43,003 --> 00:24:45,527 others were engaged in battles of their own. 564 00:24:45,571 --> 00:24:47,573 Albeit, slightly smaller ones. 565 00:24:47,616 --> 00:24:49,662 Take Caroline Blakiston, for example. 566 00:24:49,705 --> 00:24:52,012 She was waging a war of nerves. 567 00:24:52,055 --> 00:24:54,536 I was just dreadfully, dreadfully nervous 568 00:24:54,580 --> 00:24:57,147 'cause I... I think I... I forgot a line. 569 00:24:57,191 --> 00:24:58,671 I couldn't remember what to say 570 00:24:58,714 --> 00:25:01,456 and somebody else read it and I just stood there. 571 00:25:01,500 --> 00:25:03,589 It was a, sort of, nightmare. 572 00:25:03,632 --> 00:25:05,373 NARRATOR: But it wasn't Richard Marquand 573 00:25:05,416 --> 00:25:07,549 who'd coax the performance out of Caroline. 574 00:25:07,593 --> 00:25:10,857 During a break between shots, Harrison Ford came over... 575 00:25:10,900 --> 00:25:12,380 Well, look at you. 576 00:25:12,423 --> 00:25:14,556 And he came and sat down on the floor with me 577 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,515 and, of course, made me feel much better. 578 00:25:16,558 --> 00:25:19,648 He couldn't have been nicer. He could not have been kinder. 579 00:25:19,692 --> 00:25:21,345 But most important of all... 580 00:25:21,389 --> 00:25:23,565 It gave me a little feeling of... 581 00:25:23,609 --> 00:25:25,262 "I'm going to survive this." 582 00:25:25,306 --> 00:25:27,264 NARRATOR: And not only did Caroline survive, 583 00:25:27,308 --> 00:25:29,876 but she delivered one of the most quoted lines 584 00:25:29,919 --> 00:25:31,225 in the movie. 585 00:25:31,268 --> 00:25:35,272 Many Bothans died to bring us this information. 586 00:25:35,316 --> 00:25:37,579 NARRATOR: Cementing the legacy of the character 587 00:25:37,623 --> 00:25:39,538 for years to come. 588 00:25:39,581 --> 00:25:42,584 Also, Mon Mothma's entrance marked the arrival 589 00:25:42,628 --> 00:25:44,368 of new visual effects 590 00:25:44,412 --> 00:25:46,762 including this early CGI. 591 00:25:46,806 --> 00:25:50,026 A subtle glimpse of the franchise's future. 592 00:25:50,070 --> 00:25:52,159 Now, speaking of quotable lines... 593 00:25:52,202 --> 00:25:54,248 It's a trap! 594 00:25:54,291 --> 00:25:56,642 NARRATOR: The actor inside Mon Mothma's slightly balder counterpart, 595 00:25:56,685 --> 00:25:58,121 Admiral Ackbar, 596 00:25:58,165 --> 00:26:00,123 well, he went to battle, too... 597 00:26:00,167 --> 00:26:03,300 Concentrate all fire on that Super Star Destroyer. 598 00:26:03,344 --> 00:26:05,738 NARRATOR: ...over the motivation of the great General. 599 00:26:05,781 --> 00:26:07,740 Richard Marquand came over and he said, 600 00:26:07,783 --> 00:26:11,613 "We just want to shoot some filler things to use for editing. 601 00:26:11,657 --> 00:26:13,397 "We've won the battle, 602 00:26:13,441 --> 00:26:14,834 "the Death Star is destroyed..." 603 00:26:14,877 --> 00:26:17,271 [ZAPPING, EXPLOSIONS] 604 00:26:17,314 --> 00:26:22,145 "We want you all just to celebrate the fact that we've won the battle." 605 00:26:22,189 --> 00:26:24,844 And I was just the right age 606 00:26:24,887 --> 00:26:30,806 that I came within a whisker of getting drafted to Vietnam myself. 607 00:26:30,850 --> 00:26:33,548 So I had very strong views about the war 608 00:26:33,592 --> 00:26:35,637 even though, this was a fantasy thing, 609 00:26:35,681 --> 00:26:38,727 I'd still sent X-wing fighters 610 00:26:38,771 --> 00:26:40,555 to their final fight. 611 00:26:40,599 --> 00:26:42,470 [LASERS ZAPPING] 612 00:26:42,513 --> 00:26:46,517 I just let the... the weight of the loss 613 00:26:46,561 --> 00:26:49,477 of all those people sit on my shoulders 614 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,653 and it pushed me down into my chair. 615 00:26:52,785 --> 00:26:56,876 But... Richard comes in and he says, 616 00:26:56,919 --> 00:26:59,922 "I told you to jump up and dance around and celebrate." 617 00:27:01,489 --> 00:27:04,623 And I said, "If you want someone to jump up and celebrate, 618 00:27:04,666 --> 00:27:07,843 "you're gonna have to put somebody else in this costume and shoot them in it." 619 00:27:07,887 --> 00:27:10,019 NARRATOR: Tim Rose stuck to his guns 620 00:27:10,063 --> 00:27:12,021 and gave a performance to be proud of. 621 00:27:12,065 --> 00:27:14,807 But the battle was nowhere near won. 622 00:27:14,850 --> 00:27:18,549 In April of 1982, principal photography was wrapped in London, 623 00:27:18,593 --> 00:27:21,640 but some of the bigger scenes still remained to be shot. 624 00:27:21,683 --> 00:27:26,296 Lucas wanted more convenient California and Arizona locations 625 00:27:26,340 --> 00:27:28,690 partly to shorten the leash on his director 626 00:27:28,734 --> 00:27:30,823 and avoid a repeat of the previous film 627 00:27:30,866 --> 00:27:33,739 where he'd lost touch with Irvin Kershner 628 00:27:33,782 --> 00:27:36,263 onEmpire's overseas sets. 629 00:27:36,306 --> 00:27:40,310 Changing locations was easy, but saving money was not. 630 00:27:40,354 --> 00:27:42,704 The barge cost over a half-a-million dollars. 631 00:27:42,748 --> 00:27:45,098 NARRATOR: Because one thing Lucas couldn't change now 632 00:27:45,141 --> 00:27:46,534 was his director. 633 00:27:46,577 --> 00:27:49,624 KAZANJIAN: With the barge and some other sets, 634 00:27:49,668 --> 00:27:53,367 Richard Marquand could not visualize 635 00:27:53,410 --> 00:27:55,238 certain sections of it 636 00:27:55,282 --> 00:27:58,415 or the visual effects that would be done later. 637 00:27:58,459 --> 00:28:00,330 He couldn't put that in his mind 638 00:28:00,374 --> 00:28:02,593 and direct people 639 00:28:02,637 --> 00:28:05,727 without seeing the entire set. 640 00:28:05,771 --> 00:28:08,469 That's why we built the entire set 641 00:28:08,512 --> 00:28:12,473 which was, at that time, the largest set ever built 642 00:28:12,516 --> 00:28:13,735 in California. 643 00:28:13,779 --> 00:28:15,563 [UPBEAT MUSIC] 644 00:28:15,606 --> 00:28:17,608 NARRATOR: Despite its immense presence, 645 00:28:17,652 --> 00:28:21,874 Jabba's sail barge enjoyed only a brief maiden voyage. 646 00:28:21,917 --> 00:28:26,313 The full barge is only in one time... 647 00:28:26,356 --> 00:28:30,012 one shot. All the others are ILM. 648 00:28:30,056 --> 00:28:32,362 NARRATOR: And that one shot left a gaping... 649 00:28:32,406 --> 00:28:35,235 -[SCREAMS] -hole in the budget. 650 00:28:35,278 --> 00:28:38,412 But it was that other one shot during the sail barge sequence 651 00:28:38,455 --> 00:28:40,631 that had Billy Dee Williams concerned. 652 00:28:40,675 --> 00:28:43,809 The squibs. I shot into my foot. 653 00:28:43,852 --> 00:28:47,813 And Harrison, he was so caught up in what he was doing 654 00:28:47,856 --> 00:28:51,381 that he was... he was really busy acting 655 00:28:51,425 --> 00:28:54,123 and, uh, so he didn't realize that I was hurt 656 00:28:54,167 --> 00:28:56,473 at that particular moment. 657 00:28:56,517 --> 00:28:58,867 NARRATOR: But the real pain was behind the scenes 658 00:28:58,911 --> 00:29:01,087 and taking an unseen toll. 659 00:29:01,130 --> 00:29:03,916 TIPPETT: I was on the set with George. 660 00:29:03,959 --> 00:29:05,613 We were walking to work in the morning 661 00:29:05,656 --> 00:29:09,095 and one time I went like, "So, how's it going?" 662 00:29:09,138 --> 00:29:11,793 And he goes, like, "You know, I'd rather be watching TV." 663 00:29:11,837 --> 00:29:13,534 [LAUGHS] You know? 664 00:29:13,577 --> 00:29:15,362 NARRATOR: With the challenges of the desert behind them, 665 00:29:15,405 --> 00:29:18,278 the production moved to the California forests. 666 00:29:18,321 --> 00:29:21,194 Destined to become Endor, home of the Ewoks 667 00:29:21,237 --> 00:29:23,892 where George soon discovered that big problems 668 00:29:23,936 --> 00:29:26,155 sometimes come in small packages. 669 00:29:26,199 --> 00:29:28,505 [BEEPING WORRYINGLY] 670 00:29:28,549 --> 00:29:30,899 So Kenny Baker, who played R2-D2, 671 00:29:30,943 --> 00:29:32,771 also played an Ewok called Paploo... 672 00:29:32,814 --> 00:29:35,164 [SPEAKS GIBBERISH] 673 00:29:35,208 --> 00:29:37,036 TENUTO: Originally, Paploo's character 674 00:29:37,079 --> 00:29:38,820 was supposed to have a larger role in the film 675 00:29:38,864 --> 00:29:42,737 and it was Kenny's Ewok that was supposed to meet Princess Leia. 676 00:29:42,781 --> 00:29:44,870 I promise I won't hurt you. Now come here. 677 00:29:44,913 --> 00:29:46,523 [GROWLS] No! 678 00:29:46,567 --> 00:29:50,658 The problem was, when we needed him, 679 00:29:50,701 --> 00:29:53,792 he didn't show up. So we sent four or five people 680 00:29:53,835 --> 00:29:55,750 looking for him and they came back 681 00:29:55,794 --> 00:29:58,622 and they told me that he was drunk, 682 00:29:58,666 --> 00:30:00,624 passed out by the lake. 683 00:30:00,668 --> 00:30:02,975 [WHINES] 684 00:30:03,018 --> 00:30:07,240 Well, George heard that off-screen and George immediately said, 685 00:30:07,283 --> 00:30:09,938 "Put in Davis." 686 00:30:09,982 --> 00:30:13,289 NARRATOR: Davis was up-and-coming actor Warwick Davis. 687 00:30:13,333 --> 00:30:14,813 One of a raft of little people 688 00:30:14,856 --> 00:30:17,337 cast to play the diminutive tribe. 689 00:30:17,380 --> 00:30:20,470 MORTON: Warwick Davis, who was a young kid, 690 00:30:20,514 --> 00:30:23,909 um, fills in and is so adorable in the outfit 691 00:30:23,952 --> 00:30:27,347 that they decide to keep him playing that role for the rest of the film. 692 00:30:27,390 --> 00:30:28,739 -[GRUNTS] -Hmm? 693 00:30:29,218 --> 00:30:30,480 [SNIFFS] 694 00:30:30,524 --> 00:30:33,092 You cannot say a bad word about an Ewok ever. 695 00:30:33,135 --> 00:30:35,398 Especially in public. Hmm. 696 00:30:35,442 --> 00:30:37,748 NARRATOR: Making the Ewoks work along with everything else 697 00:30:37,792 --> 00:30:40,839 now depended on the edit and that was just another thing 698 00:30:40,882 --> 00:30:43,232 George was strangely unable to control. 699 00:30:43,276 --> 00:30:45,104 Paul should cut this. 700 00:30:45,147 --> 00:30:49,064 He cut Star Wars and he cut Empire. 701 00:30:49,108 --> 00:30:50,805 MORTON: But when Richard Marquand was hired, 702 00:30:50,849 --> 00:30:52,589 he asked for two approvals. 703 00:30:52,633 --> 00:30:54,156 He wanted his own cinematographer 704 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:55,941 and he wanted his own editor 705 00:30:55,984 --> 00:30:58,813 and his editor was a guy named Sean Barton. 706 00:30:58,857 --> 00:31:00,597 They used Sean Barton through 707 00:31:00,641 --> 00:31:03,644 Richard Marquand's director's cut. 708 00:31:03,687 --> 00:31:06,473 The director's cut was not well received at all. 709 00:31:06,516 --> 00:31:09,780 NARRATOR: And so, just like onA New Hope, 710 00:31:09,824 --> 00:31:13,088 George would need to save this movie in post. 711 00:31:13,132 --> 00:31:16,004 However, this time Marcia wouldn't be at hers. 712 00:31:16,048 --> 00:31:18,920 It was always Marcia Lucas who was that one person 713 00:31:18,964 --> 00:31:22,924 or that voice that George saved till the end 714 00:31:22,968 --> 00:31:24,839 because he trusted her opinion. 715 00:31:24,883 --> 00:31:27,711 NARRATOR: But for the first time in their relationship, 716 00:31:27,755 --> 00:31:30,366 Marcia wouldn't be there for George. 717 00:31:30,410 --> 00:31:32,847 I was burned out. I was fried. 718 00:31:32,891 --> 00:31:35,328 My brain was fried. I was fried. 719 00:31:35,371 --> 00:31:36,807 I was probably sleep deprived. 720 00:31:36,851 --> 00:31:41,247 I mean, I really gave up... my career to be a mother. 721 00:31:41,290 --> 00:31:45,686 NARRATOR: And Marcia had said the words no husband wants to hear. 722 00:31:45,729 --> 00:31:48,167 I wanted a time out, you know? 723 00:31:48,210 --> 00:31:51,692 I needed to... I needed to find myself again. 724 00:31:51,735 --> 00:31:54,434 [DRAMATIC MUSIC] 725 00:31:54,477 --> 00:31:57,045 NARRATOR: Deep into post production onReturn of the Jedi, 726 00:31:57,089 --> 00:32:00,657 George Lucas's world was spinning out of control. 727 00:32:00,701 --> 00:32:03,486 His marriage of 13 years was unraveling, 728 00:32:03,530 --> 00:32:05,706 but so, too, was his film. 729 00:32:05,749 --> 00:32:07,142 Its budget creeping up 730 00:32:07,186 --> 00:32:09,710 and its schedule falling behind. 731 00:32:10,798 --> 00:32:12,756 Towards the horrific end of Jedi, 732 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,368 heading as fast as we could towards the finish line. 733 00:32:15,411 --> 00:32:18,371 Running out of time, we have a hell of a lot of work to do. 734 00:32:18,414 --> 00:32:20,939 George decided to recut the film himself. 735 00:32:20,982 --> 00:32:22,505 NARRATOR: And for Richard Marquand, 736 00:32:22,549 --> 00:32:24,899 the director's cut would also be... 737 00:32:24,943 --> 00:32:26,118 his last cut. 738 00:32:26,161 --> 00:32:27,641 I'm sure he had good qualities, 739 00:32:27,684 --> 00:32:29,643 he just didn't bring them to the set. 740 00:32:31,166 --> 00:32:34,126 NARRATOR: From here on out it would all be down to George 741 00:32:34,169 --> 00:32:36,476 and a now-bewildered ILM team. 742 00:32:36,519 --> 00:32:39,044 The news was kind of devastating 743 00:32:39,087 --> 00:32:41,350 and I had to regroup and figure out 744 00:32:41,394 --> 00:32:44,310 how we can reshoot a lot of stuff as quickly as possible. 745 00:32:44,353 --> 00:32:45,746 [DRAMATIC MUSIC] 746 00:32:47,269 --> 00:32:50,011 Every morning George would start 747 00:32:50,055 --> 00:32:52,579 in the cutting room with me 748 00:32:52,622 --> 00:32:55,277 and then he'd leave the cutting room 749 00:32:55,321 --> 00:32:57,584 and then he'd go to his other job, 750 00:32:57,627 --> 00:33:00,935 which is building a studio and a ranch and everything else 751 00:33:00,979 --> 00:33:03,111 and then he'd go across the parking lot to ILM 752 00:33:03,155 --> 00:33:05,374 and he'd look at dailies. 753 00:33:05,418 --> 00:33:10,205 And there was a very different energy to him and to the place. 754 00:33:10,249 --> 00:33:12,686 I guess we probably didn't have as much access to him 755 00:33:12,729 --> 00:33:15,080 as we used to have. We were a little... 756 00:33:15,123 --> 00:33:18,474 uh, flying blind, sort of, in a weird way. 757 00:33:20,085 --> 00:33:23,784 I was talking to him in the hallway at ILM 758 00:33:23,827 --> 00:33:28,441 and he just seemed diminished. 759 00:33:28,484 --> 00:33:31,835 And, like, kind of hunched over and exhausted. 760 00:33:32,793 --> 00:33:35,013 It's like, "Oh..." You know? 761 00:33:35,056 --> 00:33:38,407 "This is...This is taking its toll on this guy." 762 00:33:38,451 --> 00:33:41,845 But also at the same time, there was something going on we didn't know about... 763 00:33:43,412 --> 00:33:46,154 and that was George was different 764 00:33:46,198 --> 00:33:50,289 because he was in the middle of a divorce. 765 00:33:50,332 --> 00:33:53,640 NARRATOR: For George, Marcia's time out 766 00:33:53,683 --> 00:33:55,294 was not an option. 767 00:33:55,337 --> 00:33:57,861 George said, "There'll be no time out. 768 00:33:57,905 --> 00:34:00,647 "If you want a time out, I want a divorce." 769 00:34:03,215 --> 00:34:05,739 He... He brought it up. He said, "I want the divorce." 770 00:34:05,782 --> 00:34:08,220 NARRATOR: George Lucas had it all 771 00:34:08,263 --> 00:34:10,744 and achieved everything he'd dreamed of. 772 00:34:10,787 --> 00:34:13,007 [POLLOCK ECHOING] Own your own business. 773 00:34:13,051 --> 00:34:15,053 Control your own fate. 774 00:34:15,096 --> 00:34:17,403 NARRATOR: But it came at a terrible cost. 775 00:34:17,446 --> 00:34:19,318 MARCIA: I saw George the happiest 776 00:34:19,361 --> 00:34:22,103 when he was building those buildings. When he was building the ranch. 777 00:34:22,147 --> 00:34:27,195 Walking around the buildings when they were being built, he loved that 778 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:32,418 because of the small business that his father had built from nothing. 779 00:34:32,461 --> 00:34:34,985 George always said to me, "I've got a company now. 780 00:34:35,029 --> 00:34:36,378 "I have a company. 781 00:34:36,422 --> 00:34:38,424 "This is my company 782 00:34:38,467 --> 00:34:41,992 "and I will never, ever sell my company. 783 00:34:42,036 --> 00:34:44,952 "I'm a success. I made all this money. 784 00:34:44,995 --> 00:34:47,824 "I will never, ever give up my company." 785 00:34:47,868 --> 00:34:51,306 NARRATOR: But he would give up Marcia. 786 00:34:51,350 --> 00:34:54,788 It was definitely the end of an era. 787 00:34:54,831 --> 00:34:58,966 NARRATOR: And the impact was felt far beyond this little family. 788 00:34:59,009 --> 00:35:00,750 KAZANJIAN: They were inseparable 789 00:35:00,794 --> 00:35:02,970 and when Marcia and George divorced, 790 00:35:03,623 --> 00:35:05,581 we all hurt. 791 00:35:05,625 --> 00:35:08,106 NARRATOR: Marcia Lucas had helped buildStar Wars 792 00:35:08,149 --> 00:35:10,804 with George Lucas from the ground up. 793 00:35:10,847 --> 00:35:14,982 It was the end of Camelot in some respects. 794 00:35:15,025 --> 00:35:17,071 NARRATOR: And now with both his marriage 795 00:35:17,115 --> 00:35:19,552 and the edit in turmoil... 796 00:35:19,595 --> 00:35:23,251 Their marriage is breaking up during post production on... 797 00:35:23,295 --> 00:35:24,774 on Jedi. 798 00:35:24,818 --> 00:35:26,950 NARRATOR: George would need a miracle... 799 00:35:27,864 --> 00:35:30,171 -and then... -And then... 800 00:35:30,215 --> 00:35:32,913 NARRATOR: George did something extraordinary. 801 00:35:32,956 --> 00:35:35,481 He pulled me in to cut Return of the Jedi. 802 00:35:35,524 --> 00:35:38,571 NARRATOR: And the miracle was he still had Marcia 803 00:35:38,614 --> 00:35:40,225 this one last time. 804 00:35:40,268 --> 00:35:41,530 I was saying good-bye to my marriage. 805 00:35:41,574 --> 00:35:43,141 I was saying good-bye to my career. 806 00:35:43,184 --> 00:35:45,578 Because people always ask, "Don't you miss... 807 00:35:45,621 --> 00:35:47,319 "Don't you miss the cutting room?" 808 00:35:47,362 --> 00:35:50,583 Of course I missed it. I loved what I did. 809 00:35:50,626 --> 00:35:53,063 I loved being a film editor. 810 00:35:53,107 --> 00:35:55,283 NARRATOR: But Marcia wasn't just any film editor. 811 00:35:55,327 --> 00:35:56,502 She understood stories. 812 00:35:56,545 --> 00:35:58,808 She understood what was in George's mind. 813 00:35:58,852 --> 00:36:00,419 She understood her husband. 814 00:36:00,462 --> 00:36:03,161 NARRATOR: And so Marcia Lucas got to work. 815 00:36:03,204 --> 00:36:05,728 He gave me all the emotional scenes. 816 00:36:05,772 --> 00:36:08,905 Everything that had emotion, George wanted me to cut. 817 00:36:08,949 --> 00:36:11,995 Because the director had directed certain scenes 818 00:36:12,039 --> 00:36:14,215 where Luke Skywalker was very angry 819 00:36:14,259 --> 00:36:15,999 when Obi-Wan appears to him, 820 00:36:16,043 --> 00:36:17,958 you know, as a ghost-like figure. 821 00:36:18,001 --> 00:36:21,657 That's not the way of a Jedi. So I had to recut the scene 822 00:36:21,701 --> 00:36:25,008 and I had to find the softest reading I could find. 823 00:36:25,052 --> 00:36:27,533 And of course, the British director was having 824 00:36:27,576 --> 00:36:31,276 a British editor cut all the anger. 825 00:36:31,319 --> 00:36:33,321 I knew Mark had to be uncomfortable with that. 826 00:36:33,365 --> 00:36:36,237 And I knew there'd be softer readings in the outtakes 827 00:36:36,281 --> 00:36:40,154 and so I had to soften Luke's performance throughout the whole movie. 828 00:36:40,198 --> 00:36:41,460 DUNHAM: And there wasn't 829 00:36:41,503 --> 00:36:45,203 a emotional or dramatic scene 830 00:36:45,246 --> 00:36:47,596 that didn't pass through Marcia's hands. 831 00:36:48,728 --> 00:36:50,251 NARRATOR: AndJedi had no shortage 832 00:36:50,295 --> 00:36:53,385 of emotional baggage that needed careful unpacking. 833 00:36:53,428 --> 00:36:54,647 My son. 834 00:36:56,649 --> 00:36:58,912 -Leave me. -So, it fell to Marcia... 835 00:36:58,955 --> 00:37:00,174 -No. -to stop 836 00:37:00,218 --> 00:37:02,089 Return of the Jedi's death scenes 837 00:37:02,132 --> 00:37:03,438 from dying themselves. 838 00:37:03,482 --> 00:37:04,700 I was the queen of death. 839 00:37:04,744 --> 00:37:06,093 I used to go into the editing room and say, 840 00:37:06,136 --> 00:37:07,834 "Who's dying today?" 841 00:37:07,877 --> 00:37:10,228 NARRATOR: Vader's de-helmeted denouement was crucial, 842 00:37:10,271 --> 00:37:11,707 but first there was an important 843 00:37:11,751 --> 00:37:13,927 near-death experience to negotiate. 844 00:37:13,970 --> 00:37:16,495 [ZAPPING, SCREAMS] 845 00:37:16,538 --> 00:37:17,974 I wanted the audience to feel like, 846 00:37:18,018 --> 00:37:20,629 "When is Vader going to stop him from killing his son?" 847 00:37:20,673 --> 00:37:24,633 I said to George in dailies, "Well, in a close-up, 848 00:37:24,677 --> 00:37:27,767 "I don't see Darth Vader making the decision 849 00:37:27,810 --> 00:37:30,335 "that he's gonna do this." 850 00:37:30,378 --> 00:37:33,903 The next day George said, "Get the second unit ready." 851 00:37:33,947 --> 00:37:36,558 We went back and George and I shot close-ups 852 00:37:36,602 --> 00:37:41,041 of Darth Vader making that decision 853 00:37:41,084 --> 00:37:42,477 to save his son. 854 00:37:42,521 --> 00:37:44,262 NARRATOR: Those extra shots gave Marcia scope 855 00:37:44,305 --> 00:37:46,176 to reimagine the cut... 856 00:37:46,220 --> 00:37:47,656 So she did. 857 00:37:47,700 --> 00:37:49,441 So, I milked it a little. 858 00:37:49,484 --> 00:37:50,833 [SCREAMS] 859 00:37:50,877 --> 00:37:54,315 You have paid the price for your lack of vision. 860 00:37:54,359 --> 00:37:56,186 -[ZAPPING] -[GRUNTS] 861 00:37:56,230 --> 00:37:59,451 Is he really gonna let The Emperor kill his son? 862 00:37:59,494 --> 00:38:00,974 [ZAPPING] 863 00:38:01,931 --> 00:38:04,456 Father, please! [GRUNTS] 864 00:38:04,499 --> 00:38:06,980 -You know, Luke's screaming. -[SCREAMING] 865 00:38:07,023 --> 00:38:09,417 And The Emperor's shooting him and Vader's looking 866 00:38:09,461 --> 00:38:12,464 back and forth and finally he picks the Emperor up, 867 00:38:12,507 --> 00:38:16,511 boom! Takes him over and throws him down the cannon. 868 00:38:16,555 --> 00:38:18,600 NARRATOR: And such a monumental death 869 00:38:18,644 --> 00:38:21,037 required a monumental reaction. 870 00:38:21,081 --> 00:38:23,039 [SCREAMING] 871 00:38:23,083 --> 00:38:26,913 I said, "Don't you think there oughta be some nuclear reaction?" 872 00:38:26,956 --> 00:38:28,480 [SCREAMING CONTINUES] 873 00:38:28,523 --> 00:38:30,482 'Cause it was just, like, pick him up, throw him over, 874 00:38:30,525 --> 00:38:32,788 -drop him... -[SCREAMING CONTINUES] 875 00:38:32,832 --> 00:38:35,182 That needed to be an... an event. 876 00:38:35,225 --> 00:38:37,053 [WHOOSHES] 877 00:38:37,097 --> 00:38:40,187 And George said, "Yeah, I'm gonna get ILM to work on that." 878 00:38:40,230 --> 00:38:42,232 [WHOOSHING] 879 00:38:43,756 --> 00:38:46,498 -Father... -NARRATOR: But the main event 880 00:38:46,541 --> 00:38:48,326 was to be more understated. 881 00:38:49,152 --> 00:38:50,545 I won't leave you. 882 00:38:50,589 --> 00:38:52,808 It's a very emotional scene. 883 00:38:52,852 --> 00:38:55,289 NARRATOR: And it might've been very different 884 00:38:55,333 --> 00:38:57,160 were it not for Marcia. 885 00:38:57,204 --> 00:38:59,162 The way it was originally cut was, you know, 886 00:38:59,206 --> 00:39:01,121 "I know you're-- I know there's good in you." 887 00:39:01,164 --> 00:39:03,166 "Yeah, you're right." Boom, "I'm dead." 888 00:39:03,210 --> 00:39:04,994 And what I had to do was 889 00:39:05,038 --> 00:39:06,822 put in some pregnant moments. 890 00:39:07,475 --> 00:39:08,911 Tell your sister... 891 00:39:10,609 --> 00:39:13,046 you were right. 892 00:39:13,089 --> 00:39:16,397 I tried to make this scene more emotional. 893 00:39:16,441 --> 00:39:18,007 [DRAMATIC MUSIC] 894 00:39:20,009 --> 00:39:23,361 NARRATOR: But while Marcia's deft recuts ratcheted up the tension, 895 00:39:23,404 --> 00:39:27,277 they unfortunately had the same effect on the special effects team. 896 00:39:27,321 --> 00:39:28,801 Jediwas a real grind. 897 00:39:31,499 --> 00:39:33,283 And it was like, "Get these shots out!" 898 00:39:36,199 --> 00:39:37,723 NARRATOR: Just like its predecessors, 899 00:39:37,766 --> 00:39:40,465 the final scene ofJedi was coming down to the wire. 900 00:39:40,508 --> 00:39:42,423 Another battle within a battle. 901 00:39:42,467 --> 00:39:43,946 RALSTON: For the space battle sequence, 902 00:39:43,990 --> 00:39:46,862 I did a really funky version of the whole sequence 903 00:39:46,906 --> 00:39:50,213 based on the storyboards using Chroma key 904 00:39:50,257 --> 00:39:52,999 and ships on sticks, you know, 905 00:39:53,042 --> 00:39:54,435 shooting the models we had. 906 00:39:54,479 --> 00:39:57,438 It was so funky, but it was the sequence 907 00:39:57,482 --> 00:40:00,789 and we sent it to George to take a look at, 908 00:40:00,833 --> 00:40:02,748 to get his blessing, and he loved it. 909 00:40:02,791 --> 00:40:04,663 Intensify forward firepower! 910 00:40:04,706 --> 00:40:06,447 [SCREAMS] 911 00:40:06,491 --> 00:40:07,579 Too late! 912 00:40:12,932 --> 00:40:14,847 NARRATOR: Like a Super Star Destroyer, 913 00:40:14,890 --> 00:40:18,067 Return of the Jedi had come to an explosive end. 914 00:40:19,547 --> 00:40:23,290 We still got it done and it's still a laugh riot. 915 00:40:23,333 --> 00:40:25,466 It still has Ewoks in it. 916 00:40:25,510 --> 00:40:26,728 [LAUGHS] And, uh... 917 00:40:26,772 --> 00:40:27,990 [SPEAKS GIBBERISH] 918 00:40:28,034 --> 00:40:29,731 You know, it was an exhausting movie to do. 919 00:40:29,775 --> 00:40:30,993 We were all wiped out. 920 00:40:32,212 --> 00:40:33,866 NARRATOR: Amidst the wreckage of it all, 921 00:40:33,909 --> 00:40:37,347 was a movie that was loved by almost everybody 922 00:40:37,391 --> 00:40:39,437 -at the time. -That was good. 923 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,003 It was really, really good. 924 00:40:41,047 --> 00:40:45,051 NARRATOR: And is beloved by almost everybody today. 925 00:40:45,094 --> 00:40:48,446 And it end at one of my most horrible moments, really. 926 00:40:48,489 --> 00:40:50,796 Shameful is the final shot 927 00:40:50,839 --> 00:40:55,104 of 3PO dancing with Ewoks. 928 00:40:55,148 --> 00:40:57,019 [SOFTLY GROANS] Shouldn't have happened. 929 00:40:57,063 --> 00:40:58,456 [INHALES SHARPLY, LIGHTLY GROANS] 930 00:40:58,499 --> 00:41:00,588 NARRATOR: Financially, George's experimenting 931 00:41:00,632 --> 00:41:03,461 in self-funding had well and truly worked. 932 00:41:03,504 --> 00:41:06,246 Return of the Jedicost about $32.5 million, 933 00:41:06,289 --> 00:41:10,555 but returned $475 million at the box office. 934 00:41:10,598 --> 00:41:12,731 NARRATOR: When it came to personal finances, 935 00:41:12,774 --> 00:41:15,516 George had some big decisions to make. 936 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,301 So when we were getting divorced I said to George, 937 00:41:18,345 --> 00:41:21,043 I said, "I don't... I'm not gonna be around 938 00:41:21,087 --> 00:41:22,741 "to make movies with you and you're gonna 939 00:41:22,784 --> 00:41:24,525 "go on to make movies." 940 00:41:24,569 --> 00:41:28,181 I said, "But I would take a small percentage of Lucasfilm." 941 00:41:28,224 --> 00:41:29,443 "You can't have anything. 942 00:41:29,487 --> 00:41:32,272 "No, I will give you nothing in Lucasfilm." 943 00:41:33,447 --> 00:41:35,884 And Star Wars was worth nothing. 944 00:41:35,928 --> 00:41:37,756 The movies were over. They were done. 945 00:41:37,799 --> 00:41:38,974 It wasn't worth anything. 946 00:41:39,801 --> 00:41:40,976 And then my lawyer said, 947 00:41:41,020 --> 00:41:43,762 "Well... doesn't Lucasfilm have properties? 948 00:41:43,805 --> 00:41:48,418 "ILM and...and Egg Company and all these... 949 00:41:48,462 --> 00:41:52,553 "He had some properties." I said, "Yes, he has... he has you know, 950 00:41:52,597 --> 00:41:54,555 "real estate." 951 00:41:54,599 --> 00:41:58,559 I got a percentage of...of some of that. 952 00:41:58,603 --> 00:42:01,562 And I heard on the grapevine through the years 953 00:42:01,606 --> 00:42:04,086 that George will go out and tell people 954 00:42:04,130 --> 00:42:07,089 that he couldn't, um, he had to let go... 955 00:42:07,133 --> 00:42:10,832 he had to let go of people because he had to pay his divorce. 956 00:42:12,181 --> 00:42:14,662 NARRATOR: The settlement George made with Marcia 957 00:42:14,706 --> 00:42:18,013 drew a firm line under the ex-couple's business affairs. 958 00:42:18,057 --> 00:42:20,581 I do know that George told me 959 00:42:20,625 --> 00:42:22,931 if it wasn't for the settlement, 960 00:42:22,975 --> 00:42:26,718 he would've have had to have sold the Ranch. 961 00:42:26,761 --> 00:42:28,502 NARRATOR: But it was their personal lives 962 00:42:28,546 --> 00:42:29,895 that hurt George the most. 963 00:42:29,938 --> 00:42:31,766 He just thinks I had an affair. 964 00:42:31,810 --> 00:42:34,073 He thinks I left him for another man. 965 00:42:34,116 --> 00:42:35,944 I never had an affair. 966 00:42:35,988 --> 00:42:39,078 The other man didn't have anything to do with my decision to leave. 967 00:42:39,121 --> 00:42:41,428 He wanted me gone forever... 968 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,345 with no contact. 969 00:42:45,388 --> 00:42:49,479 NARRATOR: George and Marcia's love of each other and film making 970 00:42:49,523 --> 00:42:53,179 led to an extraordinary period in Hollywood. 971 00:42:53,222 --> 00:42:54,963 And what they created was much more 972 00:42:55,007 --> 00:42:57,879 than just amazingly popular movies. 973 00:42:57,923 --> 00:43:00,360 George, obviously, was Lucasfilm, 974 00:43:00,403 --> 00:43:03,450 Skywalker, the creator. 975 00:43:03,493 --> 00:43:06,714 The guy who paid our bills. 976 00:43:06,758 --> 00:43:10,892 The guy who made the company what it was, 977 00:43:10,936 --> 00:43:15,984 but Marcia was really the shining bright light 978 00:43:16,028 --> 00:43:17,725 of Lucasfilm. 979 00:43:17,769 --> 00:43:20,989 Everybody knew her. Everybody loved her. 980 00:43:21,033 --> 00:43:24,079 NARRATOR: And no one more than George Lucas himself. 981 00:43:24,123 --> 00:43:25,907 KAZANJIAN: He was very, very upset 982 00:43:25,951 --> 00:43:29,607 about the love of his life leaving. 983 00:43:29,650 --> 00:43:33,219 And I know at one time, George said to me, 984 00:43:33,262 --> 00:43:36,222 "I still love her and I would take her back." 985 00:43:36,265 --> 00:43:38,833 [SOMBER MUSIC] 986 00:43:38,877 --> 00:43:40,618 MARCIA: Unfortunately when you get married 987 00:43:40,661 --> 00:43:43,403 you always believe you're gonna be the old people 988 00:43:43,446 --> 00:43:45,057 sitting on the park bench. 989 00:43:45,100 --> 00:43:47,102 You're gonna be walking through the park holding hands. 990 00:43:47,146 --> 00:43:50,062 You know, in your 80s. We didn't get there. 991 00:43:50,105 --> 00:43:54,501 But the 20 years we spent together were wonderful years. 992 00:43:54,544 --> 00:43:55,937 Look what we made. 993 00:43:55,981 --> 00:43:59,462 And I would just be sad to think that I wouldn't... 994 00:43:59,506 --> 00:44:02,291 I mean, I probably never will talk... 995 00:44:02,335 --> 00:44:04,903 He could very well die tomorrow. I mean, I don't know. 996 00:44:04,946 --> 00:44:06,165 I don't know if I'll ever see him 997 00:44:06,208 --> 00:44:08,210 or speak to him again in this lifetime. 998 00:44:09,951 --> 00:44:11,300 But I would just be sad. 999 00:44:15,957 --> 00:44:19,744 Suddenly, George's world is upside down 1000 00:44:19,787 --> 00:44:22,485 and he's not gonna make movies for a while. 1001 00:44:22,529 --> 00:44:24,226 MORTON: He was just burned out. 1002 00:44:24,270 --> 00:44:26,707 So he had pretty much said he was gonna retire. 1003 00:44:27,229 --> 00:44:28,883 And he's out. 1004 00:44:28,927 --> 00:44:31,973 [ECHOES] Out. Out. Out. Out. 1005 00:44:33,148 --> 00:44:34,149 [DRAMATIC MUSIC FLOURISH]